Comments on: An Obsolete Competition?

By: Danny Zacharias

Danny Zacharias — Thu, 10 Nov 2011 19:59:34 +0000

Discussion 2 years later http://nt-studies.tumblr.com/post/12605958420/2-years-of-the-changed-status-quo

By: Has Logos Bible Software made the competition obsolete? « kata ta biblia

Has Logos Bible Software made the competition obsolete? « kata ta biblia — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 04:32:54 +0000

[...] Capability, Including the I-Phone (new with 4.0). Rubén Gómez at Bible Software Review gives a wise moderating response to Heiser’s somewhat charged statements. Danny provides a helpful “water cooler” [...]

By: R. Mansfield

R. Mansfield — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:43:52 +0000

Since John has provided a link to a cache of the post I retracted, let me offer the same words I posted over at deinde.org:

Well, you know what they say– trying to take something off the internet is like trying to take pee out of the pool.

Too bad the cache is of the earlier less-proofread version. Oh well.

If anything, I’m glad that the comments aren’t cached. That’s where I felt it was getting ugly and out of hand, including my involvement.

The whole thing made me take a step back. I decided I was adding to something that I didn’t feel was healthy, and it was certainly divisive.

I’m going to continue to use both Accordance and Logos, but I’m not going to be the “Anti Logos Guy” anymore. There’s been bad behavior on both sides, but today’s a new day, and for my part anyway, I can choose not to participate in the debate any longer.

By: John

John — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:58:09 +0000

See blog article http://thislamp.com/%3Fp%3D248&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=safari” rel=”nofollow”>here

By: Donovan

Donovan — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:34:08 +0000

You wrote: “At the end of the day, it is quality that matters. More doesn’t necessarily mean better. Standard resources are not that many. If you have what you need to have (the tools of the trade), you are not missing out, regardless of the program you use.”

I agree, BUT, if you are involved in theological research, a greater selection of materials means that there is more of a chance that what you need is in digital format. I had a friend give me a real hard time about using Logos as one of my tools. When we started going over some of the required materials that I needed for my studies that wasn’t available in his software software package, his only response after he was finished challenging me was to tell me the benefits of buying print copies instead of owning digital!

Besides, what is “standard”?!? Who defines what is standard and when do new materials become “standard” and when are old materials considered no longer “standard”? What is “standard’ is a straw man that will easily blow over depending on your theological orientation, which institution you may be associated with and what your particular field of study is.

I would add that for research, having a large plethora of digital resources available to us means that we can do better research, faster and more efficiently. The days of being constrained physically and practically to having a small bookshelf of well worn books are over thankfully.

By: Bob Pritchett

Bob Pritchett — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:00:06 +0000

Tim, we addressed the last two problems with our new “datasheet”. This feature was actually designed for Logos 3, and the core engine shipped. (It was underneath our Search Analysis, Concordance, and other search result views.) In 3 and 4 we also hard-coded displays of this type into the Bible Word Study Guide. (The organization of automatically-run syntactic views.)

The interactive manipulation, which I demonstrated Saturday, wasn’t finished in 3 by the time we started on 4, and then it got cut in the “triage” to ship v4.0 on time. As you can see, it wasn’t far from done. Yes, we did make it an emphasis in the last few weeks in order to get it to SBL, but it’s the same “Search Analysis” feature listed on the missing-but-coming-soon feature page at Logos.com.

As for being part of 4.0: 4.0 is being updated constantly (via automatic Internet downloads, at no charge) and we’ve already added many features in response to user feedback. This is just one more that will arrive in an update, automatically and at no charge, in the next few weeks. So I’d call it part of 4.0.

The shootout was a lot of fun; it did give us some extra motivation to get some things done, and it was great to see other people demo their products. The big take-away for me was that Bible students are blessed to have so many passionate people working so hard to produce so many great tools to study God’s word.

By: Tim Bahula

Tim Bahula — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:59:34 +0000

Good reflections. I also find it interesting that Logos incorporated new code into their software specifically for the shootout. They solved the most difficult of the problems using features that are only now in beta and were not part of the much hyped 4.0 release.